GAY
CIVIL RIGHTS ?
CIVIL RIGHTS ?
In 2003 the United States Supreme Court
held that consensual sex between men could not be criminalized. The Court's 6-3
decision concerned a Texas law. The majority held that the law was
unconstitutional because it infringed on fundamental liberty and reflected
"stigma" against homosexuals. Justice Antonin Scalia, wrote a sharp
dissent. Scalia posited that the criminalization of gay sex is a legitimate
state interest. "Many Americans do not want persons who openly engage in
homosexual conduct as partners in their business, as scoutmasters for their
children, as teachers in their children's schools, or as boarders in their
home," he underlined.
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BLOG POST
by Felicity Blaze Noodleman
Los Angeles, CA
5.16.14
Thank you for joining us again this week! This is our 108th. post which is to say that we now are going into our third year of Blogging! Last week we covered the illness reported by the media which are invading the gay community and life style across the country. This week we again will continue reporting on the gay agenda in Washington DC.
We have been hearing a lot from the Democrats; from gay marriage to gay rights - gay this - gay that. It seems as though the Democrats have forgotten about the rest of the country to focus on homosexuals. They have dropped children, the elderly, the disabled, Veterans and every one else in the country who truly need help!
Once again we have assembled a group of news articles from the main stream media to report this crises, but before we really begin we would like to post a story from "The New Republic" which is in fact a statistical case study involving AIDS numbers. It is a rather long article and we are posting it in it's complete state.
"The New Republic"
May 12, 2014
Why Did AIDS Ravage The U.S. More Than
Any Other Developed Country? Solving an Epidemiological Mystery
By Michael
Hobbes Photo:
Illustration by Álvaro Domínguez
So I’m getting AIDS
tested the other day in Berlin. I’m sitting in the waiting room and feeling
like a Bad Gay, because I’ve lived here for three years and this is my first
time getting tested. I’m surrounded by all these scared-straight brochures
about HIV and AIDS in Germany. Prevalence rates, treatment options, prevention
methods, names and addresses of support groups. “Since the start of the
epidemic,” one of them says, “more than 27,000 people have died of AIDS in
Germany.”
Wait, that sounds
triumphantly low for a country of 80 million people. I pull out my phone and
check the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) website, which tells
me that, in the United States, 636,000 people have died since the epidemic began. That’s 23 times
higher than Germany, for a country with four times the population.
This makes no sense.
Germany has big cities, it has gay men and sex workers and drug users, it has
all the same temptations for them to be uncareful that the United States does.
How could so many fewer people have died?
Maybe it’s a fluke. I
visit the Public Health England website and it says 21,000 people have died of
AIDS there in total. If the rates were the same as the United States, it would
be 128,000.
The further down the
Google-hole I go, the more mind-boggling the numbers get. Since the beginning
of the epidemic, AIDS has claimed more people in New York City than in Spain,
Italy, the Netherlands, and Switzerland combined.
Illustration by Álvaro Domínguez
The next day I start
asking epidemiologists about this divergence. The first thing they tell me is
that it is real, even accounting for differences in methodology.
Each country has
a slightly different system for reporting HIV cases and AIDS deaths,
and epidemiologists are often reluctant to make apples-to-apples comparisons:
“It’s more like Red Delicious to Granny Smith,” one of them told me.
It’s better to
think of the surveillance numbers as a range, subject to updates and
back-calculations as more data comes in. But still, the differences in
measurement are nowhere near enough to account for the gaps among countries.
Measuring my income against, say, Oprah Winfrey’s would be subject to
methodological fuzziness, too—she has capital gains, real estate appreciation,
tax acrobatics—but it’s still fair to say she makes more money than I do
Scan the columns on
the stats sheets—incidence, prevalence, deaths—and you find the United States
with a two-digit lead going right back to the start of the epidemic. Still now,
no matter how much we’ve learned about how to prevent and treat AIDS, the
United States loses more than 15,000 people to it each year. Germany and the
United Kingdom lose fewer than 800.
I’m comparing
the United States with these two countries for the sake of simplicity and
because I speak the languages and have access to epidemiologists there. The
United Kingdom and Germany are on the high and low side, respectively, of the
severity of the AIDS epidemic in Western Europe, but they’re not
outliers by any means. You could compare the United States with France, the
Netherlands, Italy, wherever, and you’d come up with basically the same story.
(Five Startling
Statistics About America's Dreaful Record on HIV/AIDS)
The second thing they
tell me is why. AIDS is the same virus no matter what country you’re in. But
when it arrived in the United States, how it spread, who got it, and why—that’s
more complicated, and not entirely flattering.
Looking at the data on
AIDS deaths, you see that the virus hit the United States early—and hard. In
1982, the first year of nationwide CDC surveillance, 451 people died of AIDS in
America. Just five died in Britain. In 1985, when Germany started reporting, it
had 170 AIDS deaths. The United States had almost 7,000.
Jonathan Engel, the
author of The Epidemic: A Global History of AIDS, walks me through the
timeline: AIDS first appears in humans in central Africa in the 1950s. A few
isolated cases make it from there to the United States and Western Europe, but
it fails to catch fire. The virus finally finds a host country in Haiti,
ferried to and fro in the veins of guest workers in Africa. By the mid-’70s,
Port-au-Prince is a popular tourist and cruise-ship destination—“a gay Bangkok”
is how Engel’s book puts it—and the virus jumps from male prostitutes to gay
American vacationers, to their friends and lovers back home.
Or abroad. One of the
first U.K. surveillance reports, from 1983, announces 14 cases of AIDS, then
adds: “seven of the cases were known to have had contact with US nationals,
suggesting that the present UK situation is simply part of the American epidemic.”
But it isn’t just that
the virus arrived in the United States earlier. As Dr. James Curran, dean of
the Rollins School of Public Health at Emory University, points out, Belgium
and France had significant central African and Haitian populations; Haiti was a
destination for them, too. “But the disease wasn’t able to spread through them
like it went through American gays,” he says.
Which leads to the
next factor explaining the larger scale of the HIV epidemic in the United
States: the clustering of our high-risk populations. The United States has more
people than any Western European country, as well as more mobility, giving rise
to larger numbers of and more tightly grouped gay men and intravenous-drug
users. Engel’s book quotes Frances FitzGerald, writing in The New Yorker
in 1986, saying “the sheer concentration of gay people in San Francisco may
have had no parallel in history.”
These clusters were
also engaged in riskier behavior. The United States had higher rates of STDs
and intravenous-drug use (epidemiologists used to call shooting up “the
American disease”) before AIDS arrived. All of this, combined with the virus’s
devious characteristic of being maximally spreadable right after infection,
laid the infrastructure for the disease to maraud through one population and
jump to others.
The closest thing to a
natural experiment on this clustering phenomenon is right in my own backyard.
East and West Berlin had the same language, history, and culture—everything but
the political and economic structures that allowed gay men to find each other
and addicts to find drugs.
“Before the Berlin
Wall came down, East Berlin had two gay cafés and two gay bars, for a
population of 1.3 million people,” says Michael Bochow, a sociologist in Berlin
who has been researching HIV in Germany since the beginning of the epidemic.
“East Berlin had no bathhouse, no bar with a back room.”
Guys in East Berlin
were still hooking up with each other—of course they were—but the low labor
mobility, combined with the logistical barriers to participating in gay life
and getting intravenous drugs, kept clusters from forming.
In 1989, when the
Berlin Wall came down, West Germany had about 35,000 people infected with HIV.
East Germany had fewer than 500.
I don’t want to
overstate the case here. This clustering effect is almost inherently
un-measurable (drug use and gayness weren’t exactly on the census), and there’s
no way to know if San Francisco and New York really had higher proportions of
gay people than London, Paris, or Berlin. We do know that the virus spread
faster through U.S. cities than European ones, but we don’t know, may never
know, precisely why.
The third explanation
for how the HIV epidemic in the United States got so severe so early has to do
with intravenous-drug use—and the policies that tried to prevent it. One of the
most staggering numbers I came across was that, from the beginning of the
epidemic until HIV treatment became widely available in 1996, 124,800
intravenous-drug users were diagnosed with HIV in the United States. In the
United Kingdom, it was just 3,400.
Don Des Jarlais,
research director of the de Rothschild Chemical Dependency Institute in New
York, says HIV in drug users followed a similar trajectory as HIV in gay men.
It arrived earlier than in Europe, and it had a more fertile spreading ground
thanks to the higher prevalence of drug use.
No one knew how severe
the epidemic was among drug users until 1984, when the still-under-development
antibody test found that 50 percent of drug users in New York City and
Edinburgh and 30 percent in Amsterdam were already infected. (Des Jarlais says
genetic tests have since shown that the epidemic in Amsterdam originated in New
York.)
Here’s where the
differences come in. Almost immediately after those first tests, Western
European countries installed needle-exchange programs, gave out free syringes,
and established opiate-substitution treatment. Germany even got needle vending
machines. By 1997, England and Wales were giving out 25 million free syringes
per year. Anything to keep the virus from spreading, even if it meant making it
a little easier to be a heroin addict that day.
The United States, on
the other hand, refused to provide federal funds for needle exchanges or even
fund research into whether they were effective. Exchanges were established in
some cities—by 1990, New York City was distributing 250,000 syringes a year—but
they never achieved the coverage of the countrywide programs in Western Europe.
This sounds like just
another episode to file under “Western Europe enlightened, U.S. myopic,” but
remember how different the context was. The mid-’80s was America’s heyday of
stigmatizing drug users. This was the era of “Just Say No,” Nancy Reagan on
“Diff’rent Strokes,” McGruff the Crime Dog. America was in the middle of a
crack epidemic. All of the negative impacts of that epidemic—the gang violence
to prolong it, the War on Drugs to end it—were concentrated in poor, mostly
African American communities. Just possessing syringes was illegal in most
states. Handing them out in the millions, facilitating one epidemic to end
another, seemed like a cruel joke.
“They were saying,
‘Why don’t you just get rid of drug use from our communities?’ ” Des Jarlais
says. “ ‘You’re letting these drugs come in because you don’t care about our
communities, and now you want to make things worse by giving out syringes.’ ”
This gave national politicians the excuse they needed. The ban on federal
funding for needle exchanges wasn’t lifted until 2009.
As I’m calling up
epidemiologists, hearing these explanations, it feels like something’s missing:
What about all those public-information campaigns I remember from growing up?
After-school specials, PSAs, the time my Seattle public middle school gave us
all a stack of condoms and told us to put them on fruit at home? Did Western
European countries implement different, more effective kinds of programs?
Prevention efforts did
indeed differ among countries. Germany threw funding at gay community NGOs and
gave them carte blanche to devise their own prevention projects. Britain put a
John Hurt voice-over on top of Mordor imagery, called it “AIDS: Don’t Die of
Ignorance,” and beamed it to the whole country.
Engel points out that,
in the United States, despite Ronald Reagan’s sloth-like funding of HIV
research and the government’s stinginess in supporting NGOs, gay activists were
on the streets and in the bathhouses from the earliest stages of the epidemic,
condoms in hand, telling people how to protect themselves. At the national
level, C. Everett Koop sent a pamphlet to every household in America
(literally!), telling them about the disease and achieving the goal, like the
British mass campaigns, of scaring us all shitless.
The efforts of gay
community groups during this time have been (rightly) lionized in movies like We
Were Here and How to Survive a Plague. Less well known is that
intravenous-drug users were also educating each other about how to reduce
risks. Drug users started sharing needles with fewer partners, even setting up
their own needle exchanges, pilfering clean needles from hospitals, or
importing them from Canada. Des Jarlais told me about doctors who used to place
boxes of clean syringes around emergency rooms, knowing they’d be taken by drug
users and sold or given onward.
The messages and
methodologies of these efforts may have differed among the United States, the
United Kingdom, and Germany, but their effect appears to be equally decisive.
By the mid-’80s, gay men and drug users knew about HIV, they knew about their
risks, and they were making changes to reduce them. In all three countries, HIV
incidence—the number of people contracting HIV each year—peaked in the
mid-’80s, then started to drop as people de-risked their sex and drug use.
But for those already
infected, none of that mattered; the number of deaths rose steadily through the
late ’80s and early ’90s. The avalanche had been loosed, and there was little
anyone—NGOs, doctors, politicians—could do to stop it.
Graphs of AIDS deaths
in almost every developed country look like a wave about to break on the shore.
Starting from zero, deaths rise steadily through the ’80s, a bit faster in the
’90s, then suddenly, around 1995 or 1996, plummet downward.
“That’s the beginning
of the HAART era,” says Caroline Sabin, a professor of medical statistics and
epidemiology at University College London. She’s talking about highly active
anti-retroviral therapy, the cocktail of medications that, 15 years after the virus
appeared, marked the first truly effective rampart against it.
The next thing you
notice about those graphs is that death rates in the United States didn’t fall
to the same lows as the rest of the developed world. (Check out how great the
discrepancy is in the chart above.) Sabin points me to a 2013 study that found
the United States with four-year HIV mortality rates roughly equal to those in
South Africa.
And it’s not just the
death rates that stayed high. In 2010, the United States had 47,500 new HIV
infections. The entire European Union—with a population more than one and a
half times that of the United States—had just 31,400.
So what gives?
“Keeping people alive is about getting them diagnosed, getting them into care,
then making sure they stay in care and on HAART,” Sabin says. “And that,
unfortunately, is where the U.S. differs from the U.K.” It turns out that, just
as the AIDS virus seems almost designed to perfectly exploit the weaknesses of
the human immune system, treating it seems designed to exploit the weaknesses
of our national health care system.
Let’s start with
diagnosis, the first stage of what epidemiologists call the “cascade of care.”
An undiagnosed HIV infection is a ticking time bomb for the people carrying it.
Each day that goes by, the virus chips away at their immune systems, reducing life
expectancies and increasing the cost and chances of complications once they
finally get on treatment. They also, crucially, remain more infectious. Up to 50
percent of new HIV infections are
transmitted by people who don’t know they have it.
Getting an HIV test
is, logistically speaking, pretty easy in all three countries. The next stage
of the cascade, getting linked to another round of tests and into treatment, is
more challenging. In the United Kingdom and Germany, if you test positive for
HIV, you’ll immediately be referred to an HIV clinic for tests to measure how
much of the virus is in your blood and how well your immune system is holding
up.
Three-quarters of
Brits diagnosed with HIV get to this next stage of care within two weeks, and
97 percent make it within three months. This is not just some nationwide
codification of English politeness. Clinics that provide testing are required
to get HIV-positive people to the next round of tests or they don’t get fully
reimbursed. If you screen positive and skip your viral-load test, you’ll get a
call from the clinic asking why you didn’t show up. Some testing centers will
walk you straight to the hospital to make an appointment.
In the United States,
only 65 percent of people with HIV get linked to a hospital or clinic within
three months. A survey in Philadelphia published in 2010 found that the median
time between diagnosis and treatment was eight months. The effect of the wait
can be devastating. A 2008 study found that gay men who had full-blown AIDS
before they were diagnosed were 75 percent more likely to die within three
years, even if they got on treatment. For people whose viral load is high and
T-cell count is low, getting on HAART is like putting on sunscreen after
they’ve already been at the beach for two hours.
The next stage of HIV
care is receiving HAART pills and staying on them. People who get medication
rapidly and take it consistently aren’t just less likely to die of the virus;
they’re less likely to pass it on. The epidemio-speak term for this is having a
“suppressed viral load”: The levels of the virus in your blood are so low that
tests can’t pick them up anymore—and your sex and drug partners are also a lot
less likely to.
This is the holy grail
of HIV treatment, and arriving there requires at least 90 percent adherence to
the pill regimen. If you stop taking the pills then start again, or forget to
take them more than once in awhile, the virus could spike or you could develop
resistance to the drugs.
In Britain and
Germany, two-thirds of people with HIV have a prescription for HAART. In
America? Only one-third. Forty-eight percent of Brits with HIV have a
suppressed viral load. In the United States, only 25 percent of them do.
The most obvious
reason for this gap is cost. In the United Kingdom, HIV treatment is completely
free. Some clinics even reimburse you for your bus fare. In Germany, drugs
might cost you a co-pay of 5 euros ($7.50), but that’s subsidized if you’re
unemployed or below an income threshold.
Neither the CDC nor
the National Institutes of Health tracks the out-of-pocket costs of
anti-retrovirals, but Stephanie Cohen of the San Francisco Department of Public
Health tells me that someone without insurance and earning too much to qualify
for Medicaid could pay as much as $2,000 a month. And that’s just the pills.
Clinic visits, infections, hospitalizations: The costs of treatment multiply as
fast as the virus does without it.
But before we all rush
to Twitter to make easy political points about how America is the land of the
nothing-is-free, again consider the context. The United States has put
tremendous effort and resources ($14 billion per year now) into HIV treatment
and has considerable achievements to show for it. Medicaid covers HAART for the
poor. The Ryan White Program, with $2.4 billion in annual federal funding,
provides it for the less poor. Some cities, including San Francisco, have
better treatment stats than the United Kingdom or Germany.
Consider, too, the
scale of the epidemic in the United States. When HAART first became available
in 1995, the United Kingdom had around 30,000 people diagnosed with HIV.
Germany had 38,000. The United States had 759,000 and more new infections every
year than the United Kingdom or Germany had in total. Providing testing,
treatment, and follow-up to all those people would have been a Hoover Dam–size
investment. One we were not, as a country, willing to make.
It’s not just a
question of money or political will. In the last two decades, as the United
States has put so much effort into filling the cracks in HIV care, the virus
has moved into the populations most likely to fall into them.
From its origins as a
concentrated, urban epidemic, HIV has migrated resolutely outward and
southward. “People test positive and they just go home. Then they come and get
tested again,” says Susan Reif of Duke University’s Center for Health Policy
and Inequality Research.
I didn’t know it was
possible to get a lump in your throat from lists of two-digit numbers, but then
Reif shows me the data on HIV in the Deep South versus the rest of the country.
HIV prevalence: 2.3 cases per 100,000 people in Vermont; 36.6 in Louisiana.
Death rates: 9.6 per 1,000 person-years in Idaho; 32.9 in Mississippi. In 2011,
nine of the top ten cities for new HIV infections were in the South. In
Louisiana, only 68
percent of people with HIV
saw a doctor that year.
Meanwhile, in 2012,
AIDS dropped
off the list of New York
City’s top ten causes of death for the first time since 1983.
As the geography of
HIV has shifted, so have its demographics. Ethnic minorities, rural drug users,
impoverished heterosexuals: The virus has found the people least likely to
seek—and have access to—health insurance and specialized clinics.
You could drown in the
numbers on this if you wanted to, but a study that stuck out to me was one from
2012 that found uneducated black men had an AIDS mortality rate 30 times higher
than educated white men. Among uneducated black women, it found that the
introduction of HAART barely dropped mortality rates at all. In 2011, AIDS was
the ninth-highest cause of death for blacks and twenty-fourth for whites.
Higher levels of
stigma, poor infrastructure for treatment in rural areas, abstinence-only
education—Reif says they all contribute to the higher rates of diagnoses and
deaths. Syringe exchanges are still illegal in almost every Southern state. An
estimated 60,000 uninsured or low-income people with HIV live in states that
have rejected the Medicaid expansion under Obamacare.
“Each state has a
different Medicaid program in terms of whether you’re eligible and what your
co-pays are,” she says. “Some Medicaid programs will only cover a certain
number of drugs. So you get five. And you have to pick which five.”
Just as explaining the
differences between Europe and America requires accounting for the weight of
their histories and social structures, so does explaining the differences
between the South and the rest of the United States. “The disease burden in the
South is high for other diseases, too,” Reif says. “A lot of it goes back to
institutionalized racism, poverty, the legacy of Tuskegee. There’s a lack of
trust in health care. The states say they don’t have the money [to expand
Medicaid]—and there’s some truth to that.”
No health care system
in the world has solved the problem of AIDS. The United Kingdom and Germany
have gaps in their cascades, too. They struggle to control costs and reach
marginalized populations the same as the States. They just have less margin to
reach.
But in trying to
explain these numbers, I don’t want to excuse them. Some of the reasons the
AIDS epidemic has been so devastating in the United States were chosen for us
by history. Others we have chosen ourselves.
“At the end of the
day, it’s best understood as a function of health disparities writ large,” says
Chris Beyrer, the director of the Johns Hopkins Fogarty AIDS International
Training and Research Program. The core difference between the United States
and Western Europe, he says, is that “we’re a much bigger, much more complex,
and much more unjust country.”
1
Each country has a
slightly different system for reporting HIV cases and AIDS deaths,
and epidemiologists are often reluctant to make apples-to-apples comparisons:
“It’s more like Red Delicious to Granny Smith,” one of them told me.
It’s better to think
of the surveillance numbers as a range, subject to updates and
back-calculations as more data comes in. But still, the differences in
measurement are nowhere near enough to account for the gaps among countries.
Measuring my income against, say, Oprah Winfrey’s would be subject to
methodological fuzziness, too—she has capital gains, real estate appreciation,
tax acrobatics—but it’s still fair to say she makes more money than I do
2
I’m comparing the United
States with these two countries for the sake of simplicity and because I speak
the languages and have access to epidemiologists there. The United Kingdom and
Germany are on the high and low side, respectively, of the severity of
the AIDS epidemic in Western Europe, but they’re not outliers by any
means. You could compare the United States with France, the Netherlands, Italy,
wherever, and you’d come up with basically the same story.
Michael Hobbes is a human rights consultant in Berlin. He
has written for Slate, Pacific
Standard, and The Billfold."The New Republic"
http://www.newrepublic.com/article/117691/aids-hit-united-states-harder-other-developed-countries-why
So do we have your attention yet? Are we ready to look at Gay Rights in Washington DC and ask Democrats, "if there is such a health epidemic in this country associated with homosexuals - why is Congress now trying to give them more rights than other Americans"?
"The Washington Post"
Is Gay Rights A Civil Rights Issue? Two Lawyers From
Opposite Ends Of The Ideological Spectrum Say, “Yes.”
By Jaime Fuller
April 8 at 4:21
pm
The two attorneys who argued for the repeal of
Proposition 8 in front of the Supreme Court last June -- Theodore B. Olson and
David Boies -- opened up this week's Civil Rights Summit in Austin with a discussion about gay
rights as a civil rights issue.
Larry Pascua celebrated the Supreme Court's
rulings on Proposition 8 and the Defense of Marriage Act in San Francisco last
June. (AP Photo/Mathew Sumner)
Daily Beast editor John Avlon moderated the
conversation, introducing the pair as a "legal odd couple." The
"star legal duo"
first worked the Supreme Court in Bush v. Gore, where they faced off
from opposite sides. However, both Olson, a conservative, and Boies, definitely
not a conservative, believe that there is no legal argument to support denying
LGBT couples the right to marry.
"Part of being good lawyer is guessing
arguments of the other side," Boies said. "I'm usually pretty good at
that. The other side doesn't have any good arguments. They have a bumper
sticker that says marriage is between a man and a woman."
His statement is backed up by the legal
reasoning of the more than 30 federal judges who have considered this issue
since California's Proposition 8 -- which banned same-sex marriage in that
state -- was struck down last June.
"Every single one of them," Boies
said, "all ruled the same way. All ruled that marriage is a constitutional
right. That's extraordinary."
The two also discussed how quickly public
opinion has shifted on the matter. In the late 1960s, only a few years after
the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was signed by President Lyndon B. Johnson -- whose
library hosted the event where Olson and Boies were speaking -- a group
petitioned the Civil Rights Commission to regulate existing rules that
prohibited openly gay people from working for the government. The petition was
denied. Up until Lawrence v. Texas in 2003, it was illegal to engage in
"homosexual behavior" in Texas.
When Olson and Boies began working on the Prop.
8 case in March 2009, a majority of the country opposed same-sex marriage -- by
a margin of 17 percent. When they won the case in June, a majority of the public
approved of same-sex marriage, shifting upward by a margin of 25 percent. Now,
five years later, about 10 percent or 11 percent more of the public supports
same-sex marriage than opposes it.
Olson and Boies are targeting Virginia as their
next fight for expanding same-sex marriage rights. Not only does Virginia's
constitutional ban have some of the strongest-worded limitations on same-sex
marriage, the state also provides an important symbolic background because of
the 1967 case on interracial marriage, Loving v. Virginia. As Olson
reminded the audience, President Obama's parents would have been guilty of
a felony if they had tried to move to Virginia and get married before the
landmark Supreme Court case.
Olson, who has lived in the state since the 1980s,
listed the names of the founding fathers who had lived in Virginia. Boies said
he and Olson wanted to "implement the principles the founding fathers
articulated in Virginia." They will argue the case Bostic v.
Schaefer at the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals in
Richmond on May 13.
They have also expressed interest in working on
cases involving same-sex marriage bans in
Utah and Oklahoma.
An HBO documentary on the Prop 8 case, "The Case Against 8," comes
out in June, and the pair's book on their experience with the case, "Redeeming the Dream," will be out later this year. Both lawyers said they were excited
for the world to finally meet the plaintiffs through the film and book. Boies
said he regrets that the Supreme Court decided not to allow the case to be
televised because you could not listen to the plaintiffs on the stand
"and not be moved. They were our best evidence."
As for the future of same-sex marriage, Boies
said he was quite sure this would be a settled issue in 10 years, given that
people under age 30 show broad support for gay rights and that state
legislatures are coming onboard. But he conceded that this issue was far from
being won across the globe. He compared the current battle over gay rights to
the civil rights era of the mid-20th century. When President Harry Truman
desegregated the armed forces and the Supreme Court ruled on Brown v. Board
of Education, Congress was not on the same page. It took a decade before
lawmakers passed the Civil Rights Act.
"I'm quite hopeful that we'll see
bipartisan cooperation on this issue as we move forward," Boies said,
citing the work of Republicans Paul Singer, Ken Mehlman and Olson -- and the
minds Olson and Boies had already changed, such as conservative David Blankenhorn.
"It's extremely important that we present this not as a left or right
issue ... but as a constitutional civil rights issue," he said as the
audience applauded.
Boies and Olson also explained their legal
reasoning for supporting same-sex marriage. Olson spoke of the conservative
values inherent in expanding marriage, while Boies cited the discrimination
involved in denying equal rights to a subsection of the population. Both said
that, at heart, same-sex marriage is about the 14th Amendment, just like the
Civil Rights Act was: Equal protection under the law and due process mean that
you can't deny gay couples from having relationships open to the rest of the
public. They also added the First Amendment to the mix, which forbids
people from imposing their protected religious beliefs on others.
"We don't want to jam this issue down
people's throat" Boies said. "We just want them to understand what
this country is all about."
Everyone in the United States has discriminated
against someone, Boies said, "especially anyone as old as Ted and I
are."
He added: "We need redemption, and
everyone else does, too."
Jaime Fuller reports
on national politics for "The Fix" and Post Politics. She worked
previously as an associate editor at the American Prospect, a political
magazine based in Washington, D.C.
"The Washington Post"
Holder Calls LGBT Rights One Of The ‘Civil Rights Challenges Of Our Time’
By Jaime Fuller
February 4 at
1:57 pm
Speaking in Sweden Tuesday, U.S. Attorney General
Eric Holder made perhaps the strongest statement of his career at the Justice
Department in favor of expanding LGBT rights. The call for an international
fight against discrimination happens days before the Olympics are set to start
in Sochi, where LGBT rights are likely to be a recurring theme.
(AP Photo/Matt Rourke)
"Just as our forebears came together to
overcome tremendous adversity -- and to forge the more just and more equal
societies in which we now live -- so, too, must the current generation rise to
the causes that have become the struggles of our day; the defining civil rights
challenges of our time," he said. "I believe one of these struggles
is the fight for equality for our lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender -- or
LGBT -- citizens."
Holder's stop at the Swedish Parliament is part
of a European tour that served the bookends to a conference in Poland last
Thursday. He praised Swedish lawmakers for legalizing same-sex marriage in 2009
-- by an
overwhelming margin -- making Sweden the seventh country to do so.
"You've freed countless people to achieve whatever their dreams, their
talents, and their own hard work will allow," Holder said, "without
fear of discrimination on the basis of sex, ethnicity, religion or other
belief, disability, age, gender identity or expression, or sexual orientation.
By becoming the seventh nation in the world to extend the right to marry to gay
and lesbian couples, you've stabilized families and expanded individual
liberty."
This speech comes three years after the Justice
Department announced it wouldn't defend cases involving the Defense of Marriage
Act in court, The Supreme Court declared DOMA unconstitutional last
year, which Holder also mentioned in his speech Tuesday: "This marked a
major victory for the cause of equal protection under U.S. law, and a
significant step forward for committed and loving couples throughout the
country." Holder also mentioned the end of the "Don't Ask, Don't
Tell" policy against gays serving openly in the military and the
protections for LGBT domestic violence victims added to the Violence Against
Women Act as other successes of the Obama administration on this issue. Earlier
in January, Holder announced that same-sex marriages in Utah -- which are not
recognized by state officials despite an overturned ban --
were still legal under federal law.
Holder also mentioned other civil rights
problems in his address -- human trafficking, gender, economic and racial
discrimination -- as well as Sweden's efforts in trying to eradicate them.
When Obama visited Sweden last September, he
also mentioned gay rights, but did not build his remarks around the issue as
Holder did Tuesday. He said the two countries shared a belief that "our
gay and lesbian brothers and sisters must be treated equally under the law;
that our societies are strengthened and not weakened by diversity." Obama
echoed this sentiment in last week's State of the Union -- while tying the
issue to next week's Olympic Games, where LGBT issues have been in the
foreground since Russia was announced as the host.
Jaime Fuller reports
on national politics for "The Fix" and Post Politics. She worked
previously as an associate editor at the American Prospect, a political
magazine based in Washington, D.C.
The President and his Attorney General Eric Holder seem to be hopelessly hung up on "Civil Rights". We could say that for them it is the Holy Grail of politics! The "Civil Rights Act of 1964" was enacted as a "crutch" to aid what was seen at that time as disadvantaged African Americans whom society had by passed some how. Many at the time felt this act was unconstitutional as it gave preferential treatment to one group of Americans over the rest of the Country. It was seen as discrimination.
African Americans were recognised by Congress much earlier in the history of this Country when they were given the vote in 1870 with the Fifteenth Amendment to the Constitution. In fact Congress has dedicated many "Acts" for African Americans since the beginning of The United States to include the "Emancipation Proclamation" in 1863.
An interesting story emerged from the Supreme Court in April which may be the beginning of the end for the "Civil Rights of 1964". Is it time for the Country to remove this "crutch" from US Law?
An interesting story emerged from the Supreme Court in April which may be the beginning of the end for the "Civil Rights of 1964". Is it time for the Country to remove this "crutch" from US Law?
Michigan's
Ban On Affirmative Action Upheld By Supreme Court
By Bill Mears, CNN Supreme
Court Producer
updated 10:22 AM EDT, Wed April 23,
2014
Washington
(CNN) -- The Supreme Court on Tuesday upheld a Michigan law
banning the use of racial criteria in college admissions, a key decision in an
unfolding legal and political battle nationally over affirmative action.
The
justices found 6-2 that a lower court did not have the authority to set aside
the measure approved in a 2006 referendum supported by 58% of voters.
It
bars publicly funded colleges from granting "preferential treatment to any
individual or group on the basis of race, sex, color, ethnicity or national
origin."
Justice
Sonia Sotomayor reacted sharply in disagreeing with the decision.
"For
members of historically marginalized groups, which rely on the federal courts
to protect their constitutional rights, the decision can hardly bolster hope
for a vision of democracy that preserves for all the right to participate
meaningfully and equally in self-government," Sotomayor wrote.
But
three justices in the majority, Chief Justice John Roberts, Anthony Kennedy and
Samuel Alito. concluded that the lower court did not have the authority to set
aside the law.
"This
case is not about how the debate about racial preferences should be resolved.
It is about who may resolve it," Kennedy wrote.
"Michigan
voters used the initiative system to bypass public officials who were deemed
not responsive to the concerns of a majority of the voters with respect to a
policy of granting race-based preferences that raises difficult and delicate
issues," he added.
Justices
Antonin Scalia, Stephen Breyer and Clarence Thomas voted in the majority as
part of concurring opinions.
Sotomayor
and Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg dissented, and Justice Elena Kagan took no part
in the case.
The
court's first Latina justice, Sotomayor, took the unusual step of reading part
of her powerful dissent from the bench, taking more than 15 minutes to express
her concern about the ruling's impact.
"This
refusal to accept the stark reality that race matters is regrettable. The way
to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to speak openly and candidly on
the subject of race, and to apply the Constitution with eyes open to the
unfortunate effects of centuries of racial discrimination," she said.
"As
members of the judiciary tasked with intervening to carry out the guarantee of
equal protection, we ought not sit back and wish away, rather than confront,
the racial inequality that exists in our society," she added.
The
latest step
The
decision was the latest step in a legal and political battle over whether state
colleges can use race and gender as a factor in choosing what students to
admit.
The
debate in recent years has centered around whether and when affirmative action
programs -- while constitutionally permissible now -- would eventually have to
be phased out as the goal of obtaining diversity is met.
Last
year, the court affirmed the use of race at the University of Texas, but made
it harder for institutions to justify such policies to achieve diversity.
In
that dispute, a white student said the college's existing affirmative action policy
violated her "equal protection" rights. Civil rights supporters of
such programs claim Michigan's ban also has the same effect, and a federal
appeals court agreed.
The
Supreme Court ruled in 2003 that while state universities could use race as a
factor in choosing which students to admit, they could not make race the
determining factor in deciding whether applicants are accepted.
Michigan
has said minority enrollment at its flagship university, the University of
Michigan, has not gone down since the measure was passed.
Civil
rights groups dispute those figures and say other states have seen fewer
African-American and Hispanic students attending highly competitive schools,
especially in graduate level fields like law, medicine, and science.
"Students
deserve a robust education where a variety of viewpoints are shared and
debated," said Professor Kevin Gaines of the University of Michigan, one
of the original plaintiffs. "Proposal 2 has meant less diversity in our
universities, which has had a chilling effect on the quality of discourse in
the classroom. Unfortunately, that will continue, at least for the time being,
in Michigan."
But
supporters of Michigan's policies applauded the high court's conclusions.
"The
court emphasized the value of allowing hotly contested policy decisions to be
debated in the states rather than encouraging one-size-fits-all orders from
Washington," said Carrie Severino, chief counsel for Judicial Crisis
Network.
"In
preserving for the states and the people the right to pursue race-neutral
policies with respect to hiring and higher education, the court reaffirmed the
blessings of liberty and equality under law for another generation,"
Severino said.
Controversial
efforts
The
Michigan ban also prohibits the state from considering race and gender in
public hiring and public contracting decisions. But the current high court case
dealt only with the college admissions portion.
Efforts
over decades to create a diverse classroom have been controversial.
The
Brown vs. Board of Education high court ruling in 1954 ended segregation of
public schools, but sparked nationwide protests and disobedience by states that
initially refused to integrate.
In
the 1978 Bakke case, the justices ruled universities have a compelling state
interest in promoting diversity, and that allows for the use of affirmative
action. That issue involved a discrimination claim by a white man denied
admission to medical school.
The
referendum issue has been around at least since 1996, when California voters
endorsed Proposition 209, which bans use of race, sex, or ethnic background by
state agencies in areas of education, and government hiring and contracts.
Six
other states now have similar laws, and others may follow suit.
"With
today's opinion, the court has placed responsibility for affirmative action
squarely in the hands of the states. State universities can choose to adopt
affirmative action admissions programs, and state voters can choose to
discontinue them," said Jennifer Mason McAward, a law professor at the
University of Notre Dame.
"The
fact that this relatively simple judgment generated five separate opinions by
the justices, however, points to a much more nuanced and heated debate among
the justices regarding the permissibility and wisdom of racial preferences in
general," McAward said.
Roberts
has made the issue a key part of the court's docket in recent years and it
could serve as a major legacy of the current conservative majority.
The
case is Schuette v. Coalition to Defend Affirmative Action (12-682).
I was an affirmative action 'imposter'
CNN's
Jason Hanna contributed to this report.
"CNN"
The Roberts Court,
2010
Back row (left to right): Sonia Sotomayor, Stephen G. Breyer, Samuel A. Alito, and Elena Kagan. Front row (left to right): Clarence Thomas, Antonin Scalia, Chief Justice John G. Roberts, Anthony Kennedy, and Ruth Bader Ginsburg
Back row (left to right): Sonia Sotomayor, Stephen G. Breyer, Samuel A. Alito, and Elena Kagan. Front row (left to right): Clarence Thomas, Antonin Scalia, Chief Justice John G. Roberts, Anthony Kennedy, and Ruth Bader Ginsburg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Justices_of_the_Supreme_Court_of_the_United_States
Many of us believe the "Bill of Rights" and the Constitution are the defining documents for ALL Americans. To give exclusionary groups more rights than others is discriminatory and therefore unconstitutional. I'm Felicity; that's it and that's all for the "Noodleman Group"!
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